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Post by Sparty McFly on Jan 24, 2009 12:42:09 GMT -5
Well, here's what I'd bring: 1. .22 rimfire pistol 2. M1 Carbine 3. Crowbar 4. Machete 5. Shaolin Spade You have a few choices. You can make an official entry using the weapons at zombie.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons and an unofficial entry using any guns you know of.
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Post by Coconut on Jan 24, 2009 12:53:32 GMT -5
I'd avoid the outbreak. Much smarter.
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Post by Spec-Opp Spartan on Jan 24, 2009 13:56:11 GMT -5
A Flamethrower tank with crew thats all I need as well I burn them up and the machine guns shoots at zombies as they burn. If the tank gets critcaly damaged I would bring 1) Machine gun any type 2) A bomb incase things get bad 3) shotgun 4) submachine gun 5) A working radio to call in Missle Strikes (hey missle strikes are a weapon)
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Post by thundercavalier on Jan 25, 2009 3:00:16 GMT -5
Due to the fact that zombies will only die with a nice shot to the head (and, contrary to popular belief, Fire is not a good weapon to use against zombies), I'd probably go with....
1. Shotgun
2. Sniper Rifle
3. Some kind of accurate rifle
4. Pistol
5. Another Pistol
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Post by Danny on Jan 26, 2009 2:32:07 GMT -5
Hmm 1. Automatic Rife 2. Hand gun 3. Shotgun 4. Ray gun (Lol CoD:WaW) 5. People to throw at the zombies while i make my escape (It counts )
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Post by Sparty McFly on Jan 26, 2009 12:09:47 GMT -5
Alright, response time.
Barbarossa: 1. Machine guns would suck bad. The MG would need to fire thousands of shot to get one hit in the head. 2. Bombs fall under explosives. Explosives suck against zombies. 3. Shotguns aren't effective, but at close range a good 12 gauge will destroy the head of a zombie and rip off its head too. 4. If you have an SMG, remember to keep it on semi-auto. 5. Missile strikes fall under explosives, but since they're SO powerful, then it would be effective... unless the nearest airbase is infected.
ThunderCavalier: 1. Shotgun-Read Barbarossa's reply. 2. Sniper Rifle-One of the best weapons. Snipers will allow you to literally annihilate a zombie's head. 3. Accurate rifle-If you are talking about semiautomatic carbine rifles, good choice! They're the best weapons to use against the undead, along with .22 rimfire weapons, machetes, and shaolin spades. 4, 5. Pistol-Yeah, it'd be good. Not the best, but still very well. However, accuracy won't count if you have a shaky wrist.
Danny: 1. Keep the rifle on semi-automatic. 2. Read ThunderCavalier. 3. Read Barbarossa. 4. The raygun from CoD WaW would actually be a good weapon since it can kill zombies in one hit. You'd need to aim at the head, however. 5. You sick monster. *tsk tsk tsk* Well, it DOES count. But you're expanding the zombie hoard, something we don't want during ANY outbreak.
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Post by Spec-Opp Spartan on Jan 26, 2009 16:06:55 GMT -5
Snipers suck TBH they don't have that many rounds before they have to be reloaded and well if the zombies get to close and you only have a sniper well its been nice knowing you. Please yes headshots are effective at killing zombies but guess what they can live shorty without there often charging you. If you have played Call of Duty 5 you will find it effective to have a machine gun with a ray gun as your secound weapon as I have found yes sniper=1 hit kill but well if your against the horde then I would rather have a machine gun. Furthermore a bomb-kickass weapon aganist a horde of zombies as well you take a hell lot of them with you even though you may die as a result at least you save
While Dannys method is cruel it is effective XD but you shouldn't do that cause that is mean plus the other people would become zombies in some cases.
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Post by IndigoWolf on Jan 26, 2009 18:55:58 GMT -5
Actually, spartana, a machine gun would actually be relatively effective against a zombie. Like with a shot gun, or explosive, you wouldn't need to get a headshot, it would tear the zombie to pieces, (much easier than trying to pull off a headshot with every encounter.) A fully automatic rifle is also very effective against swarms of enemies. If you focus on getting a head shot on every single member of a horde you are going to die, (it ain't gonna work.) Also, I don't know what source you are using, but automatic weapons are acurate as long as you keep it to short bursts, (if you hold down on the trigger too long it is going to jump around too much to keep on target, but it's easy to figure out at what point you lose too much accuracy.) On the other hand machine guns use up alot of ammo very quickly. (Very fun, but shortlived fun if you see one fired up close at a target range. ) Shotguns are also very accurate but only at close range. They have a much better range and do much more damage than melee weapons. If do need a melee weapon the butt of any fire arm is just as (if not more) effective, and, unlike improvised weapons such as a crowbar, they are actually designed to be used for bludgeoning. So no need to carry around any extra weight. (Don't quote me on anything, I'm not interested in weapons enough to do any research. It's all info I picked up from my dad, who is kind of an expert on fire-arms, especially antiques.)
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Post by Sparty McFly on Jan 26, 2009 19:49:45 GMT -5
Indy, Barbarossa: The only way to effectively annihilate a zombie is to shoot its head off. However, the SAW would tear a zombie in half. Even if you DID rip the zombie to pieces then its head would still be a threat.
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Post by IndigoWolf on Jan 26, 2009 20:10:26 GMT -5
That's only one kind of zombie. There are many many different varieties of zombies, and you didn't specify. Besides, nothing is going to be a threat if it is turned to swiss cheese or in pieces. That's why shot guns, automatics, and explosives are useful in any situation involving zombies. That is the kind of damage these weapons can do.
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Post by Spec-Opp Spartan on Jan 27, 2009 19:07:39 GMT -5
Hey Spartana where di you get your information from about the zombies or what zombies are we talking about so we all are on the same page?
Oh I also I thought of another weapon I would use: Attack dogs as well they would rip the zombies to shreds and well not to be mean but they would distract the zombies..last resort but in real life I don't know if I would have the heart to send dogs to kill someone..even if they are undead. Also if the disease was only infectous to humans.
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Post by thundercavalier on Jan 27, 2009 23:15:31 GMT -5
Technically, there is only one kind of zombie. It's the universally dumb zombie whose only instinct is to consume the flesh of other non-zombie sentient beings.
Melee weapons like the Shaolin Spade are useful but, due to how easily the virus that spreads the disease that turns people into zombies (No, it's not alien, demonic, or spiritual powers controlling these zombies. It's a VIRUS. Get it straight.) through liquids from the said victim, getting close isn't exactly recommended.
Next, zombies are only killed by a shot to the head. Zombies can only move via a working nervous system which is controlled by the brain. Take it out, and the zombie dies. However, the virus has little, if any need for the stomach, heart, etc., so any body shots would be ineffective. Fire and radiation would also be ineffective unless they somehow hit the head, which is pretty unlikely and you'd be clawed to death by a fiery zombie or die from radiation poisoning should you attempt it.
However, the most useful tactic to use against zombies is its lack to adapt. The virus is non-sentient as far as most people know, and therefore it will not implement the use of tools nor use other items to further its goals. They also cannot discern the failure of a tactic, so if you're on one side of a collapsed bridge and there's a horde of zombies on another, you'll be completely unscathed as each zombie will tumble into the endless abyss below.
And for the love of f**king God, don't bring in CoD5 or L4D logic here. If zombies were dumb there, there would be no difficulty.
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Post by Spec-Opp Spartan on Jan 28, 2009 16:24:21 GMT -5
Thank you Thunder for clearing up what kind of zombie we are talking about. Next, zombies are only killed by a shot to the head. Zombies can only move via a working nervous system which is controlled by the brain. Take it out, and the zombie dies. However, the virus has little, if any need for the stomach, heart, etc., so any body shots would be ineffective. Fire and radiation would also be ineffective unless they somehow hit the head, which is pretty unlikely and you'd be clawed to death by a fiery zombie or die from radiation poisoning should you attempt it. Yes that may be the way to techically kill the zombies you can still potentaly kill or make the zombie completely useless by shooting its chest off cause get what if it does have a body then it can't move as well if you leave the neck a) the head would fall to the floor and just sit there because last time I checked heads can not move or do anything. Don't give me "they can regenerate" as well I doubt any virus could create the ability to regenerate limbs..so far based on the types of viruses we have seen in the past and no cancer is not a virus but thats different. However if you were in a Flame Tank based on Thunders logic that zombies are dumb they probaly wouldn't be using weapons then so you would be safe until the fuel supply does not run out but by then hopefully you have cleared yourself a path to safety. So yes the zombies would be running around on fire be well they couldn't hurt you. Can you accept this statement: While only a headshot can technicaly kill a zombie if you do destroy the body then it will be rendered useless and "dead" to you don't get close enough so it can bite you. <- (basing that off your logic as long as it has its brain intact then it will be still alive) Now after everyone gets there say in this we drop the subject of head shots vs machine guns as this thread is about what weapons would you bring not how effective they are. Comments are great but this is turning into a flame war and I would like to avoid it from happening because a) this can not have a end because zombies aren't real so you can't claim anything such as only headshots or only machine guns can kill zombies but you can use logic to support it plus if they aren't real then well we won't ever know what the right answer and b) nobody ever wins in a flame war because the two people hate each other and people may leave because you are mean to them. I guess we can continue the discussion but the moment it gets heated tell a mod or admin to lock the thread until it cools off and potentaly remove the post.
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Post by Sparty McFly on Jan 28, 2009 18:38:53 GMT -5
Oh, well, we're talking about the Max Brooks/John Cesar zombie. The one which has to have the head annihilated to survive.
Oh, and Thunder, fire would be effective. It does list that molotovs and flamers can cut down zombies easily. Finally, radiation poisoning was tried. In China, the Max Brooks zombies had an "outbreak" near the Khotan reactor where it nearly went critical. They survived rads that would kill humans. They could spread rads to anything they touched. People who drank infected WATER died a few days afterwards.
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